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 Thank you for your input (good, bad, and the useless) in my last post. I realize my video might have been a bit confusing.  It was a rant, it was called a rant, and I ranted. As it is my blog I just post whatever I want, and I felt like posting that. In any case for everyone who watched it and left a comment (regardless of what it said) thanks. You guys brought up some very good points for the most part.

As it is, I am a feminist: so for the people that said I would have to stop blogging or stop loving fashion to be a real feminist, I do think that's 99.999 percent bullshit. I don't think being a 'real' feminist means I can't like fashion, and the fact I would have to give up something I love and work hard at do be a 'real' feminist just seems strange to me. Why would I have to give up something I love to prove that I'm a real feminist? Fashion isn't perfect, it has double standards, it's flawed. Yes. But fashion is also what got me into feminism in the first place, because it's a form of self expression. And as a feminist I do think every woman has a right to express themselves in whatever medium they so desire, including fashion.

You cannot tell me you're a real feminist or better than me at being a feminist just because I like fashion. Since when has there even been a rule of thumb to these sorts of things? Is there a guideline on how to be a real feminist I should be following? Don't think so.

"Throughout the nineteenth century anything 'detailed' or 'ornamental' was judged feminine or inferior; and this distinction was carried on into modernism." - Ash + Wilson 1992

So when you say fashion, which is both detailed or ornamental, is an inferior hobby, you're also saying that since it's such a feminine industry (as it is assumed to be) it's a worse thing to like than say, a 'manlier' industry, like sports. Is that really something you want to be saying? (That being said I wish things didn't have a gender connotation in the first place. Methinks gender is what you make of it.)

 I do not think fashion is inherently bad, or stupid, or shallow, or any of those things. If I did I wouldn't like it in the first place. I have said it a million times, I will say it another million -- I'm not into fashion that's too saccharine or easy. I've always liked fashion that meant something just as much as it was something to wear.  Kawakubo said in an interview once, "My clothes are for women who don't care what their husband thinks about what they're wearing." She's said a million other things I could quote, but the point has been made: my favorite designers are the ones who project a strong, powerful person in their clothes. The clothes may be uncomfortable to the viewer, but the wearer doesn't give a damn, because it's comfortable to her or him. What s\he's wearing is as powerful as s\he is.


In my research on my favorite designers, I asked myself the question: what links all of them together? Why do I like them so much? They're all defined to be post-modernist designers. Bernard wrote that post-modernity as a zeitgeist "...was a world of culture in which tradition, universal beliefs and standards have been challenged". They're rebels, they mish mash anything and everything to create what they want; fashion is for the aristocrats as well as the paupers.

Fashion, as produced by these designers -- McQueen, Margiela, Demuelemeester, Kawakubo, Westwood -- it wasn't about a gender, it was about an ideal. That's what I like, I don't want to be told that "if I wear ___ I will be more of a women, or more classy, et all". I want to be told "this is for someone who is very powerful and confident with themselves. it has a power of it's own."

A lot of self proclaimed feminists (I am not saying they aren't feminists, they're just different from me) seem to think that all fashion reinfoces sexual objecticiation, that it's counterintuitive to traditional feminist ideals. That seems like a blanketing and ignorant statement to me.... I will admit that a lot of designers just continue with the idea that good design = makes women look and feel sexy / a certain way = sexual objectification, but that isn't every designer in the book, that's just a few. You can't tell me Hussein Chalayan's collection of clothing-furniture is supposed to be sexually objectifying, or that a collection that was lovingly called the "Cancer Collection" is supposed to give a man a boner.

There are a lot of questions that have no easy answer. What gives an activity a gender stigma? What makes you a good feminist? What makes you not a good feminist? Why is fashion frowned upon?

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hazel said...

To me a feminist is someone who wants gender equality. I want society to see females as strong people, who come in a variety of tastes. Not every woman wears makeup, not every woman wants a baby, not ever woman wants to marry a man. A feminist will support the different packages a woman comes in.

KD said...

WORD to you and Hazel!! But just a point: sexy does not have to equal sex objectifying. Everybody has right to be sexy (sex = innate, no? (not that that's an excuse for assault, obvs)) but it's really society that says, "sexy=sex object". There's no medium for women who want to be sexy AS WELL AS intelligent/hard-working/kind/what have you because our culture essentially says either you're a slut or a virgin.

K.M. said...

i used to think i was very much alone in being a young feminist. and it was reading fashion blogs such as yours and tavi's that made me realise i'm not, so i completely agree with you- yes parts of the industry are grossly misogynistic and need to be addressed (hellooooooo terry richardson) but anything that encourages us to creatively express ourselves cannot be inherently defined as anti-feminist, that's just ridiculous!
also on the designers you mentioned, THANKYOU, i was trying to explain to my sister yesterday why fashion isn't just "looking pretty". i got these bargain mcq harems and she said they were ugly. i was like yeah, they might be...and i love them.

Leah said...

I would like to add something intelligent, but I think you (and Hazel) have basically summed up all that I feel too. I think perhaps there needs to be a distinction though, that the problems are within the fashion industry not necessarily the clothes themselves. Anyway, loved the post.

Angelica said...

I feel like feminists aren't talking about Rei Kawakubo, Hussein Chalayan, etc. when they're referring to how fashion is misogynist...they're talking about the industry in general. The designers you mentioned are the exception rather than the rule. The fashion industry by and large IS about objectifying women and trying to tell them that they will be more sexually desirable if they wear a certain item, and always has been, and it's pretty hard to ignore that. I don't think it makes you a "bad feminist" to love fashion as long as you remain aware of these issues within the industry and are committed to helping mitigate them, which you definitely seem to be.

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There is no good or bad in ideology, just a lot of what people think and how they act. A feminist, to me, wants gender equality and to end prejudices. The industry might be misogynist, but you don't have to like that part of it. There are many different sides to "basic" ideas and to the culture that supports (or not) it.

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I'm not sure which feminists you're referring to, who think all fashion is anti-feminist, since I know a lot of feminists who do not feel that way and also love fashion (and believe me, I know a lot of feminists). I'm a feminist who loves fashion and no one has ever taken me to task for it. I think one of the most important parts about being a feminist is about recognizing where gender biases, inequalities, objectification and things like that take place and working against them. Being aware of what's wrong is half the battle. It's not being a bad feminist to like fashion. Especially because you seem to most admire designers who deconstruct the gender binary and the line between what is masculine and what is feminine (which is a societal construct anyway). If you can look at something you love and recognize things that are problematic, then you're doing just fine.

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Feminism is about choice. Women had few rights, little choice (hmmm, mom, nurse, teacher, secretary) and unequal pay. It's about changing that - strictly! It's never about denying anyone their passions whatever they may be! You go girl - help us be pretty and girly and strong and smart!

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I believe that there is this misconception that women who like fashion are objectifying themselves to fulfill 'feminine' ideals. However, fashion can be self empowering and liberating. It takes a confident woman to wear something different and stand out from a sea of individuals. Being a feminist isn't about not being interested in fashion or burning bras- its about not allowing yourself to be confined and defined to the gender roles placed onto an individual by society. At least, that's MY interpretation of it...

Lauren said...

I agree completely with your sentiments! I run into similar scenarios because I knit, and people see knitting as something antiquated, outdated, associated with the home: basically, "women's work."

To me, feminism is about enjoying and embracing who you are as a woman, not who you are "supposed" to be. Those who put women down for doing what they love, like being interested in fashion or knitting, and expect an "empowered woman" to be climbing the career ladder and waiting to have kids until she's 35, are just as closed-minded as anyone else.

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M.B. said...

I am a feminist, and I love feminism & fashion. That said, too many people involved with BOTH are looking for it to be a religion, which is an inescapable human drive. They make the ideas into "rules", forgetting of course that women's self-definition and freedom should be the basic guideline and goal, not conformity to some philosophy.

Only dead philosophies fail to change with the practitioners. And what's the point of a woman letting other women control her choices through "fail-at-feminism" shame? How is that better than patriarchy? It isn't, so fuck it. Controllers and judgers suck, no matter what philosophy they camouflage themselves with.

Fashion is flawed, but so is everything, including modern feminism. They are both works in progress, and only progressive, equality-minded individuals participating in both of them can help them advance. Take the great, leave the rest to the past.

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A little behind on my reading, I was astonished to see the responses people had to your previous post. I was so suprised and shocked by the nasty, vicious comments you received from a select few people! I am really happy that you wrote a response to all of the feminist bashing and nit-picking. Feminism is different for everyone, and is essentially trying for total equality and opportunity for all. To see people angrily disect a video that obviously had good intentions broke my heart.
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